Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev proposed an amnesty for summer residents who had drilled water wells before 2006. For them, licenses for wells are planned to be renewed automatically and free of charge.
Moscow summer residents complained to the prime minister about the dominance of "controllers" demanding money for renewing a license allowing the operation of water wells.
Larisa Grigoryeva, an accountant at the Chimfarm SNT near Moscow, during a meeting with Medvedev, said that "horticultural associations are starting to conduct environmental audits on the use of wells for water production." "We are talking about having a license for wells. Penalties for individuals set in the amount of 3-5 thousand rubles, for partnerships - up to 1 million rubles," she explained.
"Issuing a license is not only an expensive process, but also a rather lengthy one. Are such inspections and fines legal? Is there any period established by federal law for obtaining a license for wells?" - the summer residents asked Medvedev a question.
In 2006, a new "Water Code of the Russian Federation" was adopted, among the provisions of which appeared the requirement and compulsory licensing drilling a water well (well).
But until 2015, there was no strict control over the implementation of the law, which led to the emergence of "intermediaries" selling licenses, and since 2016, checks began on the legality of owning water wells.
The summer residents near Moscow were the first to complain.
Medvedev called the requirements for licensing wells legitimate: "There are no doubts about the law, it was specially adopted in order to streamline the use of water."
But the implementation of the law is not always accurate, there are "some organizations" that are already starting to collect "fines", "fees" in order to quickly issue a license.
“Water is a value, you really need to control what happens to it. But the fact that some organizations ask for money to obtain such licenses from established authorized government bodies, is a complete disgrace. These licenses were not introduced in order for intermediaries to make money on them," Medvedev said.
The head of government proposes amnesty for owners of water wells who drilled them before 2006. Permits for them will be extended automatically and free of charge.
Medvedev has already instructed to work out such an amendment to the law.
“Actually, I have already instructed my colleagues in the government and governors to work it out, this applies to all regions,” the prime minister noted. “If we are talking about water use by an ordinary participant in a gardening partnership up to 100 cubic meters of water, this does not require licensing. These are quite decent numbers that allow a specific person to use water without excessive bureaucracy".
As for large consumers of water - horticultural associations, their licenses will be extended free of charge.
“It seems to me that this would be correct. And whoever applies again, new partnerships, let them get a license in in due course. I think it will be fair. And we will certainly bring this idea to life,” Medvedev assured.
“The fact is that many of our strong, large horticultural associations use water in a centralized way. They have artesian wells, where there is good water, but not all of this is formalized,” the prime minister explained. “I asked the governor of the Moscow region. There are 20,000 horticultural associations, the region is rather big, about 7 million people, and only a quarter have water use formalized somehow, which means that three-quarters will have to obtain these licenses if there is centralized water use.”
If they are forced to obtain a new license, then "each partnership will pay a million rubles (and this is a lot of money for horticulture) just to be allowed to use the water that they already use, especially since most of these wells were dug for people's money."
Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev considers it fair to set equal prices for electricity for horticultural associations and for the rural population.
Last week, at a government meeting, new law a project regulating the procedure for registration and activities of horticultural associations. The Prime Minister then suggested not to hurry with its final approval and sending it to Parliament, but first to listen directly to the gardeners and, possibly, to introduce some of their ideas into the document. Therefore, yesterday Dmitry Medvedev arrived in Kursk, where he met with representatives of horticultural, horticultural and dacha farms. The conversation took place, as they say, in the fields - on the territory of a large non-profit gardening partnership "Khimfarm", which united about 1300 summer cottages. However, in fact, this topic affects almost half of the country - almost 60 million people go to suburban areas.
The current law on horticultural associations was adopted 20 years ago and is already hopelessly outdated. Land issues and problems with unregistered objects in summer cottages were resolved through a "dacha amnesty". As a result, since 2007, about 12 million buildings have been re-registered under the preferential procedure. There are problems associated with the management of partnerships: how the amount of contributions is determined, how the register is maintained, how the rights of members of cooperatives are exercised. "Therefore, we decided that it makes no sense to change the current law - it is quite outdated - and do everything in a complex, create a new law," the head of government told the gardeners.
First, the new law systematizes the types of real estate that can be built on garden plots. "It could also be a garden house, which does not require a building permit at all. Or - this is a new norm of the law - you can build a full-fledged house on the site as an individual housing construction and in this house you can register on permanent place residence," Dmitry Medvedev briefly explained the contents of the document.
Secondly, the bill defines a unified, non-competitive procedure for allocating land to gardeners, which will make it possible to bring unused plots into circulation. Thirdly, the forms of horticultural partnerships are determined. There will be two of them - horticultural and horticultural. Fourthly, only three types of contributions are established for participants in such cooperatives - entrance, target and membership. All others are cancelled. "And a closed list of areas for which they can be spent is being established," the head of the cabinet of ministers emphasized.
Fifth - the concept of property is introduced common use partnerships that cannot be divided. Finally, the bill specifies the procedure for creating garden associations, and in order to bring existing associations to new standards, the prime minister specified, no re-registration will be required - it will be enough to amend the charter. Dmitry Medvedev expects that all these innovations will be useful: "They will simply make life easier for people who constantly use their garden plots."
The list of problems that concern summer residents is much longer, and often they are much more mundane. Member of SNT "Khimfarm" Oksana Polyakova raised the issue of cadastral valuation of land for tax purposes. Sometimes neighboring plots have different cadastral values, because the valuation was carried out by different companies.
"From January 1, 2017, the law on state cadastral valuation comes into force," the Prime Minister recalled. A unified federal assessment methodology is being introduced throughout the country, and this will be done by public sector entity. And for her mistakes, said the head of the Cabinet, she will have to compensate for the damage in full.
For many dacha cooperatives road problems remain. Municipalities cannot take on balance roads that they did not build, they do not allocate funds for them, so summer residents have to repair them at their own expense. Dmitry Medvedev was asked to think about putting ownerless roads and access roads to horticultural associations on the balance sheet of municipalities. "We will strive to do this," the head of government cautiously promised. But you can't just order the regions - you need funds to maintain these roads.
The main thing is to determine the procedure so that later there are no questions from the regulatory authorities, - representatives of local authorities responded.
If the municipality recognizes the road as a public road, then it is taken into account, commented on the situation from the Ministry of Transport.
It also depends on the regions at what prices horticultural associations receive electricity. Now they are equated to the category of "population", and the regions have the right to introduce benefits. Gardeners, on the other hand, would like electricity to be sold to them as to the rural population - cheaper. “We should get together and discuss with the leaders of the regions whether they are capable of making such a decision for all horticultural associations, but as a recommendation such a decision could be made,” the prime minister reasoned. “From the point of view of justice, this seems right to me.”
Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev on Monday, August 22, I visited the horticultural non-profit partnership (SNT) "Khimfarm" and examined one of the garden plots.
SNT covers an area of 82 hectares and includes 1353 garden plots. More than 1200 people are members of the garden partnership. Snt is fully electrified, water is supplied to each garden plot. Khimfarm gardeners grow potatoes, cabbage, tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, apples, pears, plums, apricots, cherries, raspberries, grapes, strawberries, currants and other agricultural crops.
From the transcript of the meeting (posted on the official website of the Russian government):
D.Medvedev: I am glad to have the opportunity to meet with you and discuss the problems that concern almost 60 million people in our country. This figure, of course, strikes the imagination: half of the country is dacha residents, half of the citizens of our country are somehow connected with dacha gardening. In fact, dacha farming is a unique phenomenon. Probably many of you know that foreign languages, at least in English language, the word "dacha" is borrowed from the Russian language, it sounds like that in English. This is interesting, but in reality it means that this is a purely Russian phenomenon. Of course, there are also houses in nature, but they don’t have such a special dacha lifestyle.
Therefore, the topics that we will consider today are indeed very significant for a large number of our people. I see the point of discussing all these issues is that we understand whether we are on the right track in terms of a number of decisions that we need to make. These are, first of all, legislative decisions, and related to various problems.
Some of the problems arose back in the Soviet period, when six acres were allocated from enterprises and organizations to people, and the citizens of our country somehow settled down, supplied electricity, gas, water, and roads. Regulation then was very strict, there were all kinds of prohibitions, restrictions, limits on the size of the house, and so on. Then all this disappeared, and in the 1990s everything went by itself. Someone continued to live in a typical seasonal house, someone built a full-fledged housing on the garden plot. arose great amount gaps in legislation, various uncertainties that are still affecting.
Let me remind you that the current law “On horticultural, horticultural and dacha non-profit associations of citizens” was adopted almost 20 years ago. He is in to a large extent is, of course, outdated. During this time, the solution of property issues, land, town planning has gone ahead. And people continue to face a number of problems. The most seemingly elementary and important thing for a significant part of people: is it possible to register at the place of residence in the country? The Constitutional Court, as you know, answered these questions in the affirmative, but this norm still did not get into the law, and uncertainty remains.
We are preparing amendments, most recently a “dacha amnesty” was carried out. This "amnesty" really brought a lot of positive things. Gardeners were able to register ownership of their plots and houses under a simplified procedure. This is good, because all this hung in an incomprehensible state, in an unsettled state, it was impossible to figure out who owned what, and it was simply normal to transfer the rights to the land, the house, to everything related to gardening.
There are also problems associated with the management of horticultural associations, including how contributions are determined, how they are spent, how a register of horticultural association members is maintained, what issues are put to a vote, how the rights of those who are members of a horticultural association and those who owns property but is not a member of a gardening association. In general, this is a rather large set of problems.
Therefore, we decided that it makes no sense to change the current law, it is quite outdated. It is necessary to do everything in a complex, to create a new law. Such work was carried out at the site of the Ministry of Economic Development. Minister of Economic Development Alexey Valentinovich Ulyukaev is present here. I would like to inform you that last week we considered this draft law at a government meeting. I specifically proposed to give some more time to finalize the law, bearing in mind our meeting with you. Because if there are some issues that were not included there, but should be integrated into the law, should be reflected in it, we will be able to do this after today's meeting. We will listen to all the opinions that exist and submit the final bill to the State Duma.
This is very important, because this is, in fact, the “constitution” according to which horticultural and horticultural associations in our country will live in the next few decades.
I will outline a few fundamental points - they are so legal, but most of the problems that horticultural partnerships face are precisely of a legal and organizational nature.
Firstly, the types of real estate that can be built on garden plots are systematized. It can be a garden house - such houses, for example, are here, for which a building permit is not required at all and which are intended for temporary, seasonal residence. Or (and this is a new norm of the law, as they say, a novella) it will now be possible to build a full-fledged house on the site from the very beginning, as an object of individual housing construction, and in this house you can register at the place of residence. Thus, we are completely removing the previous prohibitions in this area at the legislative level. Or garden house, or a residential building, if you want and there are opportunities to build such a house, and you can register in it.
Second. The bill defines a unified, non-competitive procedure for allocating land to gardeners that is in the state or municipal property. The current law establishes competitive, tender procedure. Now this requirement is removed. This will bring unused land into circulation.
The third thing I would like to say is that forms are systematized horticultural organizations. Non-essential differences between the garden and summer cottages, which spoiled the nerves of people, are abolished. Now partnerships will be created in two types - we offer horticultural and horticultural.
Fourth - on contributions. Contributions are also systematized. They can be of three types: introductory, target and membership. And various others are canceled in order not to create any uncertainties. A closed list of areas for which the collected funds can be spent is established so that there are no doubts about the transparency of those expenses that the partnership itself makes. This will reduce the scope for any abuse there.
Fifth, what I would like to say is that the right to common property of a partnership is brought into line with the law. This is similar to apartment buildings where many people live. That is, it is the property of common use that is not subject to any division.
Sixth. The bill specifies the procedure for creating partnerships, registering them, and allows you to unite households within the already built-up areas, if there is a desire to create a horticultural or dacha economy. The procedure for acceptance, exclusion from the partnership, as well as a number of other issues is determined.
A very important point that I would like to draw attention to right away: transitional provisions are directly established there for all existing gardening associations, no re-registration is required. You just need to change the charter, and that's it. No formalities are required, only a change in the bylaws. There is no need to make changes to the title documents for real estate. If someone wants, then please, otherwise, in general, this will not need to be done.
I very much hope that all these innovations will not only be useful to all our horticultural, horticultural and summer cottages, but will simply make life easier for people who constantly use their garden plots, summer cottages, and will solve a number of other problems that are purely economic character. Of course, we will also talk about them today - I mean connecting to electricity, gas, water supply, improving the general condition of roads leading to farms, landscaping and a number of other tasks.
I briefly told you what proposals we have in this bill. If you have any other considerations, please speak directly about it.
V. Ivanov(member of SNT "Berry"): 171st the federal law, which made changes to the Land Code, today allows summer residents, gardeners to legalize the unintentional seizure of land, which arose due to a number of technical problems long ago, when even plots were measured by steps. This, of course, intensified the registration of land plots for cadastral registration, but at the same time, many gardeners faced the problem of timing. It's no secret that there is a massive overlap of land plots on each other or on common areas. To these contentious issues resolve, need a long period. Cadastral engineers who conduct land surveying give three months for this. Sometimes during this time it is not possible to solve all the problems, because, as a rule, an appeal to the courts is required. Is it possible to consider the possibility of increasing these terms for conscientious summer residents - from the moment of filing an application to the complete resolution of some controversial issues?
D. Medvedev: This is a very specific problem, it concerns a large number of people. The only suggestion I have is: let's drop the term "unintentional land grab". It's a thing of the past, it's not a capture, it just needs to be formalized properly.
The 171st law you mentioned is a really important law. He settled issues that relate to the provision of land, including issues related to cutting, issues that may be associated with the imposition of one plot on another. In general, these processes are going on all over the country, but if we talk about the timing, this problem probably exists.
Since 2007, more than 12 million real estate properties of summer residents and gardeners have been re-registered under the preferential procedure. When we discussed this, we did not even imagine how many people it would affect. And that means it was absolutely the right decision. Because this state irritated people: you have something, but you have no rights to it; you invest money there, but it is not clear what is the fate of this land or part of the house. This, of course, strained the authorities, because it is not clear whether this is still a violation of the law or whether this is a lawful activity that should be encouraged. As a result of the amnesty, this situation has been cleared up, and this is very good.
Regarding the timing of the extension of the cadastral registration. This period is 10 working days. But if border crossings are detected, then the period you mentioned comes into force - three months. If I understand correctly, you think that three months is not enough, it does not fit into a three-month period. New law comes into force state registration real estate, an extension of this period is allowed there, at the request of a citizen, the cadastral registration procedure can be extended up to six months. To do this, you must write an application to suspend this registration. But if you think that six months is not enough, we can consider a longer period. But it seems to me that it is wrong to stretch this out indefinitely, because the goal is not to stretch the deadlines, but to register everything. After the entry into force of this law, the period will be extended to six months. It will be required - we can introduce longer periods.
O. Polyakova(member of SNT "Khimfarm"): Polyakova Oksana Sergeevna, member of SNT "Khimfarm". For many horticultural associations, for the majority, there is a problem of setting summer cottages to cadastral registration for the purpose of taxation. It turns out that neighboring plots have different cadastral values, and this is due to the fact that the assessment was carried out by different appraisers. The higher the value of the land, the higher the owner pays land tax in local budget, and appraisers often work in the interests of local authorities. In this connection, there is a proposal: to conduct a cadastral valuation government organizations according to a single standard in order to avoid low-quality work of private appraisers.
D. Medvedev: Here it is quite simple for me, Oksana Sergeevna, to answer your question. This topic also applies to horticultural associations, and a number of other land objects. People complain all the time, and not just ordinary citizens, but even companies legal entities that the assessment is carried out very differently, according to different methods and the result is very different. And very often it happens that two neighboring plots cost unequally. Appraisers may have different goals - both legitimate and completely unlawful, but the fact is that such a situation must be ended. From January 1, 2017, the law “On State Cadastral Valuation” comes into force, and this will be done by a budgetary organization, state-financed organization. That is, in other words, it will be a single federal methodology throughout the country. So that it does not turn out that one site costs five times more than the one next to it. It is clear that there may be different sizes, and there may be all sorts of inconveniences, but nevertheless, all the same, the methodology should be the same. Moreover, this law, which comes into force on January 1 next year, losses that may be caused as a result of violations of this law in determining the cadastral value, will be compensated in full at the expense of this institution. That is, this institution must work correctly, well, in good faith, otherwise it will pay for it. It seems to me that this is the correct, good norm. And she will help.
V. Kotov(Chairman of the Tver regional branch of the All-Russian public organization"Union of Gardeners of Russia"): People mastered most of the plots with their own means, that is, they built roads with their own funds, somewhere power lines. Today, many power lines are on the balance of SNT, and some are ownerless, and if some kind of natural disaster happens, for example, a hurricane, wires are torn, poles fall, it is very difficult to find an owner who will deal with the elimination of these consequences.
Electricity is sometimes the only resource in a gardening partnership, that is, not everywhere there is gas, and this is a very important point. Tariffs are growing today, they are different, and often SNT, which are located near cities, become part of cities, part of settlements. Of course, we would like professional teams to deal with uninterrupted power supply, that is, those regional, federal companies that are directly involved in this type of activity. That would suit everyone.
But there is one more thing: today city tariffs differ from rural ones, and most of our gardeners today pay for electricity at city tariffs. Often they are powered by one substation, and the villagers pay at the rural rate, and SNT participants at the city rate. We have such a wish - to equalize this tariff so that all gardeners in Russia (and the majority of gardeners are pensioners) pay rural tariffs. And make sure that power lines are transferred to regional network companies with experience, with good impeccable reputation. Then we will have high-quality uninterrupted power supply.
D. Medvedev: You raised a slightly more difficult topic than legal adjustments, because writing a law is somewhat easier than making economic decisions. Nevertheless, the very formulation of the question is absolutely fair. Basically, you raised two questions.
The first is what to do with the networks that exist in the SNT, with the network economy, which was built in different periods for different reasons and is on different balance sheets. In general, such an approach should be approved in order to transfer these networks to the maintenance of special organizations that should deal with this, because this is still an infrastructure, and quite complex, and, in fact, an object of increased danger. Of course, there should be a single regulation, care and, ultimately, a single service for the electrical facilities themselves, which were created.
It is not very easy to do this, because this is a large economy, but nevertheless, we have such a strategy for the development of the electric grid economy, which expressly provides that in the case when there are ownerless networks or networks that organizations refuse for one reason or another, they should be accepted on the balance sheet of electric grid companies. This is correct based on state approach. You yourself say that during any accidents it is very difficult to fix it all, it is expensive. Although legally, of course, it is the partnership itself that is responsible for this, which once either received consent to build the network, or did not receive it, but in any case it is subject to registration now. This is a continuation of the very “dacha amnesty”, the legalization of the economy that has been created over decades, so in general I support this approach. We will strive to ensure that such a transfer is carried out.
Now for the tariffs. Here the situation is as follows: in principle, the size of the tariff is not a federal decision, but a regional one. Different regions treat these problems differently, but according to current rules horticultural associations are equated with the category of consumers, which is called "population". Electricity is supplied to them at state rates, and the regional authorities have the right to set reduction coefficients for these tariffs, that is, to establish preferential tariffs, up to those tariffs that apply to rural residents.
Therefore, we must discuss with our colleagues - leaders of the regions whether they are now capable of taking such steps in all horticultural associations, because these will be their decisions. But as a recommendation - such a decision could be made - that the leaders of the regions and regional energy commissions make a decision to equate gardening associations with rural residents. In any case, from the point of view of justice, it looks right.
N. Didukh(member of SNT "Lavsan"): Horticultural Society "Lavsan", Didukh Nelli Petrovna. Every spring summer residents rush to specialized stores to buy seeds. I must say that we sell quite a lot of seeds. Mostly seeds come to Russia from Poland and Holland. But, unfortunately, they are not entirely acceptable in our climatic conditions. There are, of course, domestic seeds, but there are big complaints about the quality - somewhere around 50% germination. Plus, there is always a re-grading: you plant one vegetable, and a completely different one grows. And the seeds are quite expensive. Since summer residents are mostly pensioners, this costs them a pretty penny. In this regard, I have a request to you from all summer residents - to strengthen border control over phytosanitary products, imported seeds, and to approach counterfeit products very strictly. And, of course, we need to support our Russian manufacturers seeds, because our seeds really suit us better. Just make sure they are of good quality.
D. Medvedev: Nelli Petrovna, firstly, the problem of seeds, the problem of breeding and seed material, unfortunately, did not arise today. This is generally, if you like, a threat to national security. This is not only a problem of what cucumbers and tomatoes we have appeared on garden plots, these are also problems of whether the flow of seeds will be blocked for us at some point, and whether we can then just sow normally if we do not have our own material enough. Therefore, the number one task on a national scale is to support breeding production, selection, genetics, and, of course, seed production. This is now our development priority. Agriculture.
Quite recently, we were puzzled by other questions - how to simply revive crop production, how to engage in normal livestock farming so that the number of livestock increased. These issues have now been resolved. Everything is very good with us, we have excellent harvests. AT Kursk region, for example, this year there will also be an unprecedented harvest, apparently harvested. But the material - yes, this is a problem. Therefore, we direct a significant part of the money under the agricultural development program for these purposes. I hope that in the coming years, both agricultural enterprises and ordinary gardeners will receive normal seeds, moreover, adapted to our needs. weather conditions. This is also not an easy task, because our country is rather big and the seeds that are used in the Leningrad region must differ in some way from what is used in the Kursk region, and so on. It is also a problem of zoning throughout the country. This is the first.
The second is on border control of sanitary and phytosanitary requirements. Absolutely agree with this. This is generally a threat, too, and it needs to be monitored. Colleagues representing the Ministry of Agriculture and Sanitary and Phytosanitary Control are present here. We will definitely be doing this.
The last - about counterfeit. The problem is also obvious. When you buy seeds in a store, it is impossible to understand what will come of it, despite the fact that they are sold in bright packages, they have beautiful names on them. But what will come of this is unclear. And then it is almost impossible to make claims to someone, because even if it is a reputable company, it will say: yes, you planted in the wrong conditions, looked after them incorrectly. We need to switch to our own technologies here. We will definitely do this.
O. Lesnaya(member of SNT "Chamomile"): B horticultural associations, as well as throughout Russia, roads are the main problem. Access roads to associations should be managed by the municipalities. But, unfortunately, gardeners either do not apply there, or apply, but receive an answer that there is no money for this road, and they are forced to build this road and repair it on their own. Often these roads remain unfinished, unbalanced. The fact is that the municipality cannot put it on the balance sheet, since it did not build this road. And the horticultural partnership, since it did not formalize the easement and did not legalize the right to land, cannot put it on its balance sheet either.
We have a suggestion: balance municipalities ownerless and existing access roads to horticultural associations.
D. Medvedev: The problem, unfortunately, is much more complicated. It’s not enough to put them on the balance sheet, you have to support them, and maintaining is money. Nevertheless, as a general approach, this is probably correct. Because, although our country is huge, it should not have ownerless roads, by the way, as well as ownerless power grids and substations. It's just not businesslike, and sometimes even dangerous. That is why car roads of general and local significance, in fact, should form the backbone of this kind of road economy. Naturally, we will strive to do this.
Each region should have certain plans for itself, how it involves such roads in circulation, how it puts them on the balance sheet, of course, with the necessary financial support. Because otherwise it will mean that here it was ownerless, of ugly quality, and now it will simply be formally owned by the municipality, but this will not improve the quality. Therefore, it is necessary to simultaneously provide for profitable sources. What could it be? This, of course, is the means of the municipal road fund. As far as possible, they should be directed towards these goals. It is clear that there are no gigantic funds, but nevertheless it is possible. Secondly, these are subsidies from the higher budget. AT this case the higher budget is the budget of the region - the Kursk region or any other region, by analogy with the federal budget.
This is how, step by step, we need to bring these roads into use, because otherwise they will degrade in our country, they will become unusable. And we need to look at which areas are promising and which are less promising. So, if you think in a businesslike way, sometimes it is necessary to find money so that the road in the direction of gardening is repaired, put in proper condition, because a lot of people drive. Some roads are hardly driven at all, and the horticultural partnership there, in fact, may have broken up or is not working properly, that is, here one must proceed from the principle of expediency. I will definitely give this kind of instruction to my fellow governors.
N. Asaul(Deputy Minister of Transport Russian Federation): In our law on road activities, and in the law on gardening associations, the relevant norms are prescribed. If a municipality or a constituent entity of the Russian Federation recognizes a road as a public road, then, accordingly, such a road is taken into account and no additional powers or methods are required to classify a particular road as public roads. Subjects have such powers. As Dmitry Anatolyevich rightly noted, it's all about expediency. If the road is indeed a travel road, then you can take it on your balance sheet and maintain it.
D. Medvedev: If there are unresolved issues, the regions should be helped to make these decisions at the level of the Ministry of Transport.
K.Tolkachev(member of the All-Russian public organization "Union of Gardeners of Russia"): Some roads adjoin the railway tracks. As a rule, these are plots of about 500 meters near railway crossings. And here an even more difficult problem arises. The municipality seems to be ready to invest money and take these plots, but Russian Railways does not give them away.
D. Medvedev: We cannot withdraw these plots of land from Russian Railways, this is impossible, because Russian railways"- an independent huge organization, a source of increased danger, as they say. It is necessary, probably, to think, to develop some kind of regulation, how to act in such situations, when there is a municipal road on both sides and there is a need to put in order some piece of the road related to Russian Railways. I will instruct the Ministry of Transport and joint-stock company"Russian Railways" to create a procedure for resolving such issues when, for example, it is obvious that it needs to be repaired, and even, perhaps, there is money, but they are simply not in demand for some reason.
N. Fedorycheva(Chairman of the Ulyanovsk regional branch of the All-Russian public organization "Union of Gardeners of Russia"): In 15 regions, we have a program to support the development of horticulture. It works differently, somewhere good, somewhere worse, but the approach is different for everyone. And if we could combine this experience and develop uniform recommendations at the federal level for regions and municipalities, that would be great. Dmitry Anatolyevich, give me this order.
D. Medvedev: Naturally, I will only be glad if, as a result of our and your work, some recommendations arise, best practices that could be used in all gardening partnerships.
O. Valenchuk(Chairman of the All-Russian public organization "Union of Gardeners of Russia"): Chairman of the Union of Gardeners of Russia Valenchuk Oleg Dorianovich.
Gardeners are the largest investors in the Russian Federation. How much does a family invest on average in their plot? 50 thousand This includes transport, repairs, purchase of seeds, etc. Now multiply 50 thousand rubles by 20 million families. Trillion!
I am by no means belittling global agriculture, this is the foundation of the foundations, there are no questions, but gardeners are the younger brethren of agriculture. Because if we take the numbers, then 90% of the berries are grown by gardeners, 62-63% are gardeners' potatoes, 64% are cucumbers and tomatoes. Yes, it's not marketable products, but on average 50% of the production remains with gardeners. Time remains, let's help them realize. This will be an additional powerful support for gardeners.
I have a request to you, Dmitry Anatolyevich: give instructions to your colleagues to form a certain systemic institution for the interaction of gardeners and our government.
And one more question. We have 79 organizations, practically in every region. And all of them, representing 60 million families, want to have their own holiday. We discussed this issue for a long time, the ideal date for the holiday of gardeners throughout Russia is the second Sunday of September.
D. Medvedev: Regarding the sale of products. The topic is actually absolutely correct and important. If in the 1990s for many of our people gardening partnerships and their own plots were a way to survive, now the situation is somewhat different. Many have certain opportunities and something to sell. These opportunities must be used.
Regarding whether such production is commercial in nature. I think this is a pointless argument. The quality of products, especially berries, for example, fruits that are grown in horticultural partnerships, is higher than the quality of any fruits and berries that we receive from abroad, because everything is grown with our own hands, in excellent ecological conditions, as a rule. This must be used and, if possible, if there is a surplus, sold. There is nothing shameful in this.
The development of opportunities associated with weekend fairs, the creation of cooperatives, the creation of shops, shops - all this is only beneficial. By the way, the culture of production and packaging will also grow. This is all a completely normal topic, it has developed in other countries as well, so I would support it in every possible way.
As for relations with the union, I think that in this sense the union has nothing to be offended by, relations with the Government have been established. The result was just the same law that we talked about today. It is very good that we are on the eve of the introduction of the law into State Duma we have gathered here in order to compare watches, to understand whether we are on the right path. All the novelties that we have envisaged there, all those new rules, including simplified registration, simplified involvement of land in circulation, the continuation of the amnesty and a number of other provisions will be to the benefit of our horticultural associations.
The last - about the holiday of gardeners. If you think that some kind of common holiday is needed, then let's think about it. Anyway, September is a wonderful month.
L. Grigorieva(Accountant of SNT "Khimfarm", "Primorskoye"): The current situation in the Moscow region is being actively discussed among gardeners. Horticultural associations are beginning to conduct environmental audits on the use of wells for water production. We are talking about the presence of a license for wells. Fines for individuals are set at three to five thousand rubles, for partnerships - up to one million rubles. Registration of a license is not only an expensive process, but also a rather lengthy one. Are such checks and fines legal? Is there any federally mandated deadline for obtaining a well license?
D. Medvedev: As I was getting ready for our meeting, I looked at publications about well licensing, fines for refusing to obtain a license, for not issuing licenses, and all sorts of other problems, including fees that some organizations are already starting to collect in order to quickly obtain a license. There is no doubt about the law here, it is specially adopted in order to streamline the use of water. Water is a value, you really need to control what happens to it. But the fact that some organizations ask for money in order to obtain such licenses from the established authorized state bodies is a complete disgrace. These licenses were not introduced in order for intermediaries to earn money on them.
As a result, I have an idea. Actually, I have already instructed my colleagues in the Government and governors to work it out, this applies to all regions. If we are talking about the water use of an ordinary member of a gardening partnership up to 100 cubic meters of water, this does not require licensing. These are quite decent figures that allow a specific person to use water without excessive bureaucracy. But the fact is that many of our strong, large horticultural associations use water in a centralized way. They have artesian wells, where there is good water, but not all of this is formalized. I asked the governor of the Moscow region. It has about 20,000 horticultural associations, the region is rather big, about 7 million people, and only a quarter of the water use is somehow formalized. This means that three-quarters will have to obtain these licenses if there is a centralized use of water. Do you understand what it will lead to? Each partnership will pay a million rubles (and this is a lot of money for gardening) just to be allowed to use the water that they already use, especially since most of these wells were dug for people's money.
What's the idea? We need to be sure to control what happens to our water. This is truly a great value. In our country, although it is very large and we have 20% of the world's water reserves, we cannot refuse licensing. But for all users whose wells originated before the entry into force of this law and who are already in force at the moment, all these licenses must be renewed for them in automatic mode and free. Just put it on record, say there is a well, this well is known to us, it is located in such and such an area, has such and such coordinates, has such and such depths, and that’s it, and don’t take a penny. That is, in fact, we would conduct an amnesty in this area. It seems to me that this would be correct. And those who apply again, new partnerships, let them receive a license in the prescribed manner. I think it will be fair. And we will definitely bring this idea to life.
We have dealt with a topic that affects almost half of the inhabitants of our country. All those decisions that will be the result of our discussions with you will be embodied in the law and in some other amendments. It is very important that we met and discussed this here.
Moscow suburban summer residents complained to the prime minister about the dominance of "controllers" demanding money for renewing a license allowing the operation of water wells, Vesti reported on August 23. Larisa Grigoryeva, an accountant at the Chimfarm SNT near Moscow, during a meeting with Medvedev, said that "horticultural associations are starting to conduct environmental audits on the use of wells for water production."
“We are talking about having a license for wells. Fines for individuals are set at 3-5 thousand rubles, for partnerships - up to 1 million rubles, ”she explained.
Recall that in 2006 a new “Water Code of the Russian Federation” was adopted, among the provisions of which there was a requirement for mandatory licensing of drilling a water well (well). But until 2015, there was no strict control over the implementation of the law, which led to the emergence of intermediaries selling licenses, and since 2016, checks began on the legality of owning water wells.
Prime Minister Medvedev called the requirements for licensing wells legitimate: "There are no doubts about the law, it was specially adopted in order to streamline the use of water." But the implementation of the law is not always accurate, there are "some organizations" that are already starting to collect fines and fees in order to quickly issue a license. The head of government proposes amnesty for the owners of water wells who drilled them before 2006. For them, permits will be renewed automatically and free of charge. Medvedev has already instructed to work out such an amendment to the law.
“The fact is that many of our strong, large horticultural associations use water in a centralized way. They have artesian wells with good water, but far from all of this is formalized, - the prime minister explained. - I asked the governor of the Moscow region. It has about 20,000 horticultural associations, the region is rather big, about 7 million people, and only a quarter have water use somehow formalized. This means that three-quarters will have to obtain these licenses if there is a centralized use of water.” If they are forced to obtain a new license, then, according to the prime minister, “each partnership will pay a million rubles (and this is a lot of money for gardening) just to be allowed to use the water that they already use, especially since most of these wells were dug at the expense of the people.”
“The law on licensing was adopted only in 2006. Accordingly, those who drilled wells before that time should not pay anything, since the law did not exist. Those horticultural companies that drilled wells after 2006 have already acquired licenses and summer residents have paid for it. Thus, the announced "amnesty" does not change anything in the life of summer residents, and is nothing more than self-promotion of the authorities. On the other hand, since summer residents and gardeners make a significant contribution to import substitution, ensure to a large extent the country's food security, gardeners non-profit partnerships it would be more fair to entrust the payment for a license for drilling wells to the Russian budget, ”Ekaterina Fedoreeva, deputy chairman of the Oikumena public organization, expressed her opinion to NI.
There will be no more gardeners. The deputies decided to rename them gardeners. The adopted amendments fundamentally changed the original concept. What awaits 60 million summer residents, the economic observer of Vesti FM understood Pavel Anisimov.
The main document for all gardeners is the law on horticulture, horticulture and country house- Changed name today. It was decided to abandon the concept of "cottage". Deputies equated summer cottages to the garden and left only 2 forms of associations of citizens: horticultural or horticultural associations. Residential and garden houses can be built on garden plots, it is allowed to register in them. Experts say that thanks to this, the townspeople will start moving en masse to their dachas.
The concept of “garden house” has changed - now it is proposed to consider the building of “seasonal use” as such. Gardeners will have to be content with utility rooms for inventory and harvested crops. If there is already a cottage in the garden, it will not have to be demolished. But they won't let you build a new one either.
Another innovation will protect those gardeners who have not issued their land or at home. The initial version deprived them of membership in the partnership, said the head of the State Duma Committee on Property and land relations Nikolay Nikolaev. Now, in order to participate in the life of SNT, it is enough to have a gardener's book or a payment document membership dues. Also, summer residents who do not want to chip in for general needs will still be obliged to do so.
NIKOLAEV: Those people who are not owners of land plots and, in principle, cannot be, we have equated their rights with the owners of land plots. We also solved a huge problem: about a third of citizens who are gardeners do not want to participate in the activities of such associations. And we clearly spelled out the relationship of such people and non-profit associations gardeners.
Local authorities will be allowed to help gardening associations, which, after the adoption of the law, will become full-fledged settlements. In particular, municipalities can take over the maintenance of access roads and power lines to SNT, says deputy Nikolaev.
NIKOLAEV: Many asked questions about electrical networks and other engineering communications. Municipalities applied - they would like to support horticultural associations on their territory, but could not do it. We have written in the bill, now there is a rule on the transfer of networks to the balance of municipalities with their consent.
All SNTs will be required to obtain a license for water wells. At the same time, it will become easier and cheaper for gardeners to issue a permit. From the list necessary documents they removed expertise and projects that could only be done by specialized companies.
The entry into force of the law on horticulture was postponed to the beginning of 2019. In addition, another 5 years were allotted for the reorganization of dacha partnerships and cooperatives into garden partnerships. So 60 million summer residents have time to put in order the documents for their 6 acres.